Today I welcome the esteemed Dr. Joseph Burgo to discuss the psychological crisis of males who find refuge in a trans identity. Along the way, we explore myriad contributing factors, from shame, narcissism, and autogynephilia; to rising rates of autism and unlimited access to increasingly obscene internet pornography; as well as gender roles, norms, expectations, and recent cultural shifts.
As we unravel the narratives of exmilitary men and individuals in positions of power who transition, we uncover the complexities of idealization and devaluation in trans identification and the numerous parallels with personality disorder traits. How do societal norms and social justice narratives fuel the shallow idealization of the opposite gender?
We also touch on the challenges detransitioners face in therapy and the obstacles therapists encounter in providing effective care for individuals with gender ideation. How can therapists navigate the tense climate surrounding gender identity exploration? And what role should exploration of fantasies and projections play in understanding the complexities of gender distress?
Joseph Burgo, Ph.D. is a licensed clinical psychologist and graduate psychoanalyst who has been practicing for more than 40 years. As a writer, he’s the author of several works of nonfiction bringing his insights and experience as a therapist to a popular audience, and his articles and commentary on the topics of shame and narcissism have appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and most of the large news outlets online. In his private practice, he currently focuses on gender distress, and works with transidentified adolescent boys, male detransitioners, and men who struggle with autogynephilia. He can be reached at: [email protected] or find him on X @jburgo55
https://www.afterpsychotherapy.com/
https://www.amazon.com/WhyDoThatPs...
https://www.amazon.com/NarcissistYou...
https://www.amazon.com/ShameFreeYou...
Watch Dr. Burgo in The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood, made by another guest of this show, Jennifer Lahl. • The Lost Boys: Searching for Manhood
Books mentioned in this episode:
The Narcissist You Know by Dr. Joseph Burgo: https://amzn.to/3xvIxcc
Why Do I Do That?: Psychological Defense Mechanisms and the Hidden Ways They Shape Our Lives by Dr. Joseph Burgo: https://amzn.to/3vLsxSP
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[00:02:49] Autism diagnosis evolution.
[00:06:36] Psychology in developmental framework.
[00:08:02] Rise in autism due to screens.
[00:11:55] Shame and narcissism in youth.
[00:18:45] Shame defiance.
[00:21:03] Adolescence and privacy for development.
[00:25:37] Exploring views on pornography.
[00:29:36] Effects of intense porn consumption.
[00:32:55] Autogynephilia as narcissism and desire.
[00:37:40] Exmilitary men and transgender identity.
[00:40:58] Grass is greener syndrome.
[00:46:03] Idealization and devaluation in identity.
[00:49:50] The impact of societal beliefs.
[00:52:17] Avoiding adult responsibilities.
[00:56:20] Emancipating children's decisionmaking.
[01:01:27] Detransitioning experiences.
[01:02:43] Detransitioning experiences and insights.
[01:08:15] Importance of finding healing relationships.
[01:10:15] Lack of ICD procedure codes.
[01:13:42] Selfcare reminder.
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