We profiled Brendan Murray in issue 41 of Dumbo Feather.

He's the principal at Victoria's Parkville College, a school that's inside a prison. Extraordinarily, up until 5 years ago young offenders were detained and their education neglected in Victoria.

But things have changed thanks to Brendan and his fantastic staff who believe in the power of education to change people's lives. Brendan greets every student by looking them in the eye and firmly shaking their hand. He sees it as a privilege to teach them. He's believes that if you reflect people's potential back to them, they can become it.

Unsurprising then I that it was standing room only for Brendan Murray. Here he is in conversation with Dumbo Feather's editor and publisher Berry Liberman.