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But Why Christianity? - John Vervaeke Jordan Hall Jonathan Pageau

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This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy:    • The End of Strategy  with Jordan Hall  ) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?
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Timestamps:
00:00 Coming up
01:42 Intro music
02:07 Introduction
05:07 John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 Why Christian faith?
15:38 Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 The current dialogos
21:10 Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 What if this is a cryptoegoism?
55:26 Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 Intimacy
01:22:18 We can't be meta
01:27:47 Universalism
01:29:01 We each have our callings
01:30:21 John and Christianity

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