Admiral Mike Mullen, USN (Ret.), 17th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, joins Ward for an indepth discussion about his unlikely path from Hollywood to the Naval Academy and 43year career in the U.S. Navy, topped by four years as the U.S. military's highest ranking officer.

0:00 4:18: Young life in Hollywood
4:19 9:52: Path to the U.S. Naval Academy
9:53 20:35: Life as a midshipman during the Vietnam War
20:36 27:02: Junior officer sea tours
27:03 34:42: First command challenge and "zero defect mentality"
34:55 37:16: Senior commands and second career challenge
37:54 52:45: George Washington Battle Group command
52:49 1:10:20: Time as Chief of Naval Operations (including firing of Vice Admiral Joe Sestak)
1:10:25 1:26:51: Assignment as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and running the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
1:26:52 1:44:37: Bin Laden raid
1:49:00 2:08:13: Thoughts on the war in Iraq (including the idea of reinstituting the draft)
2:08:15 2:16:49: Thoughts on the war in Afghanistan (including the Biden exit strategy)
2:16:50 2:19:49: Teaching future naval officers at the U.S. Naval Academy
2:19:50 2:29:55: Thoughts on the current politcal landscape and threats to American democracy (including the Senator Tuberville admiral nominations holdup)

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