Here is my episode with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind

We discuss:
Why scaling is an artform
Adding search, planning, & AlphaZero type training atop LLMs
Making sure rogue nations can't steal weights
The right way to align superhuman AIs and do an intelligence explosion

Transcript: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/demis...
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6SWb...

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Timestamps
0:00:00 Nature of intelligence
0:05:56 RL atop LLMs
0:16:31 Scaling and alignment
0:24:13 Timelines and intelligence explosion
0:28:42 Gemini training
0:35:30 Governance of superhuman AIs
0:40:42 Safety, open source, and security of weights
0:47:00 Multimodal and further progress
0:54:18 Inside Google DeepMind