George Kollias and Pearl Drums made a stop in Frankfurt on their Demon XR promo tour for the new pedal they developed together. We agreed that this was a great opportunity for an indepth conversation about what steps you need to take to get a pedal that meets the most extreme demands.
And of course, there's also a drumtalk in this special! get ready, folks!

0:00 PART I: The Pedal
0:38 what's cookin'?
3:38 on switching
5:36 overcome former limitations
11:21 some highlights
13:27 the material
16:02 not just for extremes
18:02 on the price
20:40 PART II: The Talk
21:08 the first time
22:02 on epidemic times
25:20 the value
29:05 band member and session drummer
33:04 developing the senses
36:19 the end