Michael Steele speaks with Progressive radio host, Thom Hartmann. The pair discuss rebuilding America's middle class and the need to retransfer wealth from the top 1%. They also discuss the failures of messaging by Democrats, types of Conservatism shaped by Eisenhower and Reagan, and the implications of Project 2025.

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00:00 Cold Open
0:02:31 Interview Begins
0:03:48: America's Psyche
0:08:22 How the U.S Economy is Doing
0:11:23 How the Economy Serves the Top 1%
0:16:27 Union Movements in America
0:21:23 Rebuilding the American Middle Class
0:23:22 Biden Stepping Out of the Race
0:25:37 Is Biden Too Old to Run for President?
0:28:45 Thom Hartmann's Conservative Upbringing
0:31:11 Younger Generations Questioning the Norms
0:32:44 Eisenhower vs. Reagan Conservatives
0:35:01 Messaging and Organizational Strategy for Democrats
0:38:30 Project 2025 and a "Second American Revolution"
0:47:16 Using Messaging to Acquire Political Power

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