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In the aftermath of the assassination attempt on Donald Trump at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, we speak to writer Jeff Sharlet, author of The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War. Sharlet says, "The Trump campaign and this kind of authoritarianism is driven by not just the use of violence, not just the invocation of violence, but a kind of reverence of violence, a redemption through violence." Sharlet, who researches the rise of farright extremism in the United States, also responds to Project 2025, the farright policy platform that is expected to guide Trump's potential second term in office.

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