In this extended conversation with Jacob Berman, host of Youtube ‪@HistoryValley‬ channel, I explore in depth to what degree the the socalled "Essene movement," which most scholars associate with the group that wrote the Dead Sea sectarian scrolls, might be related to the John the Baptist/Jesus movement, that came 100 years later. I offer an overview of my online course, "Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls."