Noam Dworman and Dan Naturman are joined by Destiny. Steven Bonnell II, commonly known as Destiny, is a prominent figure in the online gaming and political commentary sphere. Renowned for his incisive debates and unfiltered opinions, Destiny has cultivated a large following on platforms like Kick and YouTube. With a background in professional gaming, he transitioned to political discourse, often engaging in discussions on controversial topics with a focus on logic and reason. His blend of gaming, politics, and sharp rhetoric has made him a polarizing yet influential figure in digital media.

NOTE from Noam:

Destiny (@TheOmniLiberal ) and I debated whether Trump intended to incite violence on 1/6.

I made three arguments to him.

1. That if Trump intended to join the protesters ("And I'll be there with you") it was unlikely he envisaged being involved in (or leading!) a violent attack on the Senate.

2. If the matter would eventually wind up before the Supreme Court, no decision could be upheld if it were made under the threat of physical intimidation. I.e., the planned cynical legal case could only survive if the decision not to certify (etc.) was made through deliberation. A decision made at gun point could not be upheld by a court.

3. Giuliani's speech had specifically laid out a legal strategy that involved 10 days of procedural "combat".

Destiny agreed that Trump intended to join the protesters but that the Secret Service had vetoed his plans.

This excerpt, however, from the doc Stop the Steal, (https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Bxv... that's his former press secretary Stephanie Grisham) contradicts that narrow point and is therefore useful to Destiny's overall point.