Meeting up in Albuquerque this past August, John Petersen, Greg Braden, and Penny Kelly sit down to talk about transitioning to a new world. They discuss the importance of reconnecting with nature, embracing new technologies responsibly, and the need for a shift in human consciousness to build a sustainable future. The discussion highlights the dichotomy between embracing advanced technology and returning to simpler, naturebased lifestyles, emphasizing the need for balance and a conscious evolution to create a better world.