This episode was recorded on February 14th, 2021.

Jonathan Pageau and I delve into the concepts of conscience, narrating objective reality, the perfect mode of being, the responsibility to move things towards the divine, the inevitability of religion, the significance of the virgin birth, and the idea of Heaven.

Jonathan Pageau is a symbolic thinker, YouTuber, and class carver of orthodox icons. Jordan and Jonathan have an ongoing dialogue surrounding JudeoChristian narrative, reality, and symbolism among many other topics.

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