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My guest today is Hannah Barnes, investigative journalist, associate editor at the New Statesman, and author of 'Time to Think: The Inside Story of the Collapse of the Tavistock's Gender Service for Children.' We spoke about the findings of the Cass Review, what exactly went wrong at the Tavistock, and why the situation in America is even worse when it comes to transgenderism and children.

In the extended version of the episode, we also spoke about the scandalous state of NHS maternity care, and whether the failures of these two different areas of healthcare come down to similar institutional problems. You can listen to the full extended episode at louiseperry.substack.com.

02:30 What is the Cass Review?
07:31 The lack of recordkeeping by the Tavistock
12:27 Conflict within the Gender Identity Development service
19:48 The profile of trans patients
22:25 Why clinicians left the service
26:17 Institutional failure
34:20 Do puberty blockers work?
40:52 What has the Cass Review recommended?
49:00 Negative reception to the Cass Review
55:00 Trans healthcare in the US

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