Here's an excerpt from our live recording of the CISO/Security Vendor Relationship Podcast at the 2019 West Michigan IT Summit in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Show was hosted by me, David Spark, producer of the CISO Series, and Allan Alford, regularly the cohost of Defense in Depth. Our guest is Dan Lohrmann, former CISO/CSO/CTO for the State of Michigan.

In this segment, I read a horrible pitch sent in to me by a listener, Christopher Stealery of Barclays, and my cohost and guest explain why it's so bad.

Huge thanks to C3 Technology Advisors for sponsoring and hosting, and thanks to Fuze and Assured Data Protection for sponsoring as well.

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